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[southernman]

The Relix article indicates that one Keller set is solo.

I don't want to be a downer (and I'm not, thrilled by the lineup), but I'd just about rather see him in any configuration other than a solo looping show. I've seen the looping show and I kind of feel like I feel about every other person I've seen do a looping show.

It obviously takes talent and its kind of interesting, but when it comes right down to it I just think it is musically compromised. Just too much that can't be done with it.

[tatanka]

Dec 9, 2016 14:37:28 GMT -5 criticalbill said:

Dec 8, 2016 23:09:45 GMT -5 @stoutmonster said:

Phish is my favorite band, but MMJ were the best band at the fest by a pretty wide margin. Definitely a more proper headlining band than anything on this year's lineup thus far.

LOL, if you're serious, we'll just have to agree to disagree.

You're a huge Moe. fan but you dislike MMJ? I know they're not incredibly similar or anything, but they're the 2 best live bands around with all members under 50.

[kuriti]

Dec 9, 2016 15:14:18 GMT -5 criticalbill said:

Dec 9, 2016 11:16:30 GMT -5 smosey wales said:

 It's far cooler at 0100 in August than at 1500 ever or 2100 even. Late nite shows are 2.5 hours-ish. You can bring your own beverages, etc. etc. I do agree with you that it's kind of a dis to a band to be relegated to a late set, off the main stage, but I'm glad those bands don't seem to see it as such. If I were a  musician I'd much rather perform in 75°-80° than 90°-100°+. Good thing it's not up to me, because nothing would start until dusk. That big yellow, hot disk thing can go fork it's self.

You must be in an RV. sleeping in a tent during the day is unbearable.

[tatanka]

Dec 9, 2016 11:16:30 GMT -5 smosey wales said:

Dec 9, 2016 8:31:15 GMT -5 @stoutmonster said:

JRAD was indeed fantastic, but latenights are never going to be my favorite sets at a fest like Lockn pretty much no matter who it is.  The BRB is awesome, but it doesn't have the grandiosity of the main stage.

It would be dumb if they didn't give JRAD a main stage spot this year IMO.  If they really do have something against putting a Dead band with no original members in it on the main stage then they need to get over that.

I'm with you but we may be in the minority. I have zero interest in a late night show especially while camping in August.  I'm glad when bands I don't want to see play them, and resent it when good bands like JRAD play late, because I won't see them.  To me, it disrespects a band's value to put them late, but that perspective admittedly is based on my value of late shows.

You can't hoot with the owls and soar with the eagles.

eh, I'm younger (26) but late night is great. When I went to lockn' I was up every AM with Keller and caught nearly every show until the last note of the night each day. I think Saturday I did pass out before Electric Tuna, but ya' can't win em' all.

[TOO $]

Dec 9, 2016 11:16:30 GMT -5 smosey wales said:

Dec 9, 2016 8:31:15 GMT -5 @stoutmonster said:

You can't hoot with the owls and soar with the eagles.

Sorry smosey but yes you can...you can sleep when you're dead...

[smosey wales]

Dec 9, 2016 21:02:22 GMT -5 TOO $ said:

Dec 9, 2016 11:16:30 GMT -5 smosey wales said:

You can't hoot with the owls and soar with the eagles.

Sorry smosey but yes you can...you can sleep when you're dead...

I know--better to be a live dog than a dead eagle.

(remember the movie "Something Wild"?)

[smosey wales]

Dec 9, 2016 16:43:31 GMT -5 southernman said:

The Relix article indicates that one Keller set is solo.

I don't want to be a downer (and I'm not, thrilled by the lineup), but I'd just about rather see him in any configuration other than a solo looping show. I've seen the looping show and I kind of feel like I feel about every other person I've seen do a looping show.

It obviously takes talent and its kind of interesting, but when it comes right down to it I just think it is musically compromised. Just too much that can't be done with it.

I'm with you. One reason I haven't made any effort to see him is because that's how he started and how I (unfairly) place him musically

[smosey wales]

well, looking at the list so far, this old dog needs to learn new tricks. I've heard of almost all of them, heard songs by most of them, but never really listened much to many of them, particularly moe.

Need to know the moe.

But nothing makes me say 'no, I'd rather not."

[Bird700level]

Dec 10, 2016 7:21:48 GMT -5 smosey wales said:

well, looking at the list so far, this old dog needs to learn new tricks. I've heard of almost all of them, heard songs by most of them, but never really listened much to many of them, particularly moe.

Need to know the moe.

But nothing makes me say 'no, I'd rather not."

Im with you. I got some listening to do which is part of why i love Lockn. Expand the horizons. I like what I hear so far from John Butler and JJ Grey. Maybe i have been living under a rock but i have never heard of Avett Bros and was shocked to hear people say they could be headlining. Didnt like what i heard from them on a quick review.

[estprofinhumboldt]

Dec 9, 2016 15:23:09 GMT -5 criticalbill said:

Dec 9, 2016 14:34:18 GMT -5 mccjeff said:

Like it or not. Avett Brothers are a headliner Fri or Sat night.

Excellent, like ween, this creates a break before heading to BRB.

I really really like your optimistic cynicism. I have meant to say this a bunch of times and haven't. The splashes of sarcasm are well executed too. Good stuff, thanks!

[worf rat]

I still don't care that much for MMJ, and I personally witnessed Bill having a good time. Agreed about tent camping in August.

CHECK YOUR RV PRIVILEGE MCCJEFF BRO!!

Seriously though, the green house effect is no laughing matter when you're trying to do it on the cheap. We're just about ready to pull the trigger on a teardrop, and although it's very affordable and won't be used just for Lockn, our camping fees are gonna go up exponentially. It's that or hotel though, because I can't take the not sleeping anymore, and I may not always have RJ to chauffeur me around.

If you weren't there you won't believe it, but Peach was even worse.

[Bird700level]

I was camping in allentown the weekend of peach. It was definately as bad or worse than Lockn. Peach is not very rv friendly. Limited spots and no electric. I would suggest renting a generator from home depot if you do peach.

[worf rat]

Dec 10, 2016 14:14:00 GMT -5 Bird700level said:

I was camping in allentown the weekend of peach. It was definately as bad or worse than Lockn. Peach is not very rv friendly. Limited spots and no electric. I would suggest renting a generator from home depot if you do peach.

I do ADA. Do they allow gens? 

[Bird700level]

Dec 10, 2016 15:01:38 GMT -5 worf rat said:

Dec 10, 2016 14:14:00 GMT -5 Bird700level said:

I was camping in allentown the weekend of peach. It was definately as bad or worse than Lockn. Peach is not very rv friendly. Limited spots and no electric. I would suggest renting a generator from home depot if you do peach.

I do ADA. Do they allow gens? 

Dont know. The website may say. Without generator might as well be in an oven.

[kuriti]

Dec 10, 2016 14:08:30 GMT -5 worf rat said:

I still don't care that much for MMJ, and I personally witnessed Bill having a good time. Agreed about tent camping in August.

CHECK YOUR RV PRIVILEGE MCCJEFF BRO!!

Seriously though, the green house effect is no laughing matter when you're trying to do it on the cheap. We're just about ready to pull the trigger on a teardrop, and although it's very affordable and won't be used just for Lockn, our camping fees are gonna go up exponentially. It's that or hotel though, because I can't take the not sleeping anymore, and I may not always have RJ to chauffeur me around.

If you weren't there you won't believe it, but Peach was even worse.

I would pay double for this to occur in October.

[Deleted]

Dec 9, 2016 15:33:58 GMT -5 TOO $ said:

Dec 9, 2016 15:25:39 GMT -5 criticalbill said:

No kidding. L4 was a near complete cluster all the way around.

I had a good time this year and you did too. Guess you decided it sucked when you got home

Nope, it was pretty much decided when the dogs started circling peoples vehicles Wednesday afternoon. Was trying to keep positive tude so as to not bring others down. You have to admit L4 had, by far, the weakest lineup. And a lot of the "perks" of going VIP just weren't there(like having the grass mowed,not really a perk, but should have been attended to).  
I did have fun...most of it in camp, hanging with old friends and new. 

[Deleted]

Dec 10, 2016 14:08:30 GMT -5 worf rat said:

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If you weren't there you won't believe it, but Peach was even worse.

OUCH!

[Deleted]

Dec 9, 2016 17:22:57 GMT -5 kuriti said:

Dec 9, 2016 15:14:18 GMT -5 criticalbill said:

 It's far cooler at 0100 in August than at 1500 ever or 2100 even. Late nite shows are 2.5 hours-ish. You can bring your own beverages, etc. etc. I do agree with you that it's kind of a dis to a band to be relegated to a late set, off the main stage, but I'm glad those bands don't seem to see it as such. If I were a  musician I'd much rather perform in 75°-80° than 90°-100°+. Good thing it's not up to me, because nothing would start until dusk. That big yellow, hot disk thing can go fork it's self.

You must be in an RV. sleeping in a tent during the day is unbearable.

I can only imagine.

[Deleted]

Dec 10, 2016 15:01:38 GMT -5 worf rat said:

Dec 10, 2016 14:14:00 GMT -5 Bird700level said:

I was camping in allentown the weekend of peach. It was definately as bad or worse than Lockn. Peach is not very rv friendly. Limited spots and no electric. I would suggest renting a generator from home depot if you do peach.

I do ADA. Do they allow gens? 

I have two Honda generators for festivals without power. But hey good news this is the first year ever Roo is having powered RV parking. August at Lockn is a bitch but June in TN is walking on the sun.

[Deleted]

Dec 10, 2016 14:08:30 GMT -5 worf rat said:

I still don't care that much for MMJ, and I personally witnessed Bill having a good time.

 Yup, JRAD at BRB was outstanding, probably the best sets of the whole shindig. And hangin with you and Sneake was the icing on that cake. 

[thelizard]

Dec 10, 2016 7:21:48 GMT -5 smosey wales said:

well, looking at the list so far, this old dog needs to learn new tricks. I've heard of almost all of them, heard songs by most of them, but never really listened much to many of them, particularly moe.

Need to know the moe.

But nothing makes me say 'no, I'd rather not."

Trust me, you're not missing anything.  Moe., frankly, sucks. 

They were at AllGood almost every year, I listened to them play several times.  Stayed for the whole thing more than once.  It was pretty awful.

I'm kind of stunned there are people that like them.  But, also, I think a lot of people grew up in really traumatic environments with terribly dysfunctional families, and it's great that they've managed to break that cycle, so I'm really glad that they've found something to enjoy.

They're just not for me.

[tinishack]

Dec 11, 2016 23:37:05 GMT -5 thelizard said:

Dec 10, 2016 7:21:48 GMT -5 smosey wales said:

well, looking at the list so far, this old dog needs to learn new tricks. I've heard of almost all of them, heard songs by most of them, but never really listened much to many of them, particularly moe.

Need to know the moe.

But nothing makes me say 'no, I'd rather not."

Trust me, you're not missing anything.  Moe., frankly, sucks. 

They were at AllGood almost every year, I listened to them play several times.  Stayed for the whole thing more than once.  It was pretty awful.

I'm kind of stunned there are people that like them.  But, also, I think a lot of people grew up in really traumatic environments with terribly dysfunctional families, and it's great that they've managed to break that cycle, so I'm really glad that they've found something to enjoy.

They're just not for me.

Could have just said the last sentence 

[cherryghost]

Moe.......It was pretty awful.

I'm kind of stunned there are people that like them.  But, also, I think a lot of people grew up in really traumatic environments with terribly dysfunctional families, and it's great that they've managed to break that cycle, so I'm really glad that they've found something to enjoy.

They're just not for me.

[/quote]

I am confused by this assessment. Are you suggesting that Moe's fan base is made up of people who came from traumatic environments with terribly dysfunctional families? Or that in general, a lot of people grew up in really traumatic environments with terribly dysfunctional families and it's a good thing when they are able to find something that they enjoy....even if it's Moe?

[moon]

Dec 9, 2016 15:07:39 GMT -5 Bird700level said:

Dec 9, 2016 14:37:28 GMT -5 criticalbill said:

LOL, if you're serious, we'll just have to agree to disagree.

I think you may be in the minority on this one, CB.

I join the minority. 

[moon]

Dec 9, 2016 17:23:39 GMT -5 tatanka said:

Dec 9, 2016 11:16:30 GMT -5 smosey wales said:

I'm with you but we may be in the minority. I have zero interest in a late night show especially while camping in August.  I'm glad when bands I don't want to see play them, and resent it when good bands like JRAD play late, because I won't see them.  To me, it disrespects a band's value to put them late, but that perspective admittedly is based on my value of late shows.

You can't hoot with the owls and soar with the eagles.

eh, I'm younger (26) but late night is great. When I went to lockn' I was up every AM with Keller and caught nearly every show until the last note of the night each day. I think Saturday I did pass out before Electric Tuna, but ya' can't win em' all.

I still consider myself young (35), but having an autoimmune disorder sure wipes you out even on lazy days. I would have loved to go all day and night, and it probably would have been possible if ADA transport were more available and reliable to the BRB. After a long day and trudging there I was exhausted and promptly fell asleep on the grass.