LOCKN' Main Stage Lighting

[Bird700level]

My thought is the Phish effect is what drove the single stage. Their set up is pretty big and maybe they would only get on board with a larger stage? Im liking it though because from what I have seen so far on YouTube, their light show is better than ever and the larger stage will provide the full experience.

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Jun 28, 2016 8:24:43 GMT -5 Bird700level said:

My thought is the Phish effect is what drove the single stage. Their set up is pretty big and maybe they would only get on board with a larger stage? Im liking it though because from what I have seen so far on YouTube, their light show is better than ever and the larger stage will provide the full experience.

As a commoner, I will also be curious as to what impact the new stage configuration will have on letting us poor folk wonder near the front of the stage...will VIP now swallow the entire stage width....and how deep will it be. Can't recall what Frey said in his interviews other than "different". Those will be interesting questions to see worked out.

I know you VIPs like your separation from the scourge. Having to walk around the back of the crowd to switch stage views in years past wasn't that bad imo.

Excited as hell now that July is here and it is actually next month.

[The Other One]

Jun 28, 2016 8:24:43 GMT -5 Bird700level said:

My thought is the Phish effect is what drove the single stage. Their set up is pretty big and maybe they would only get on board with a larger stage? Im liking it though because from what I have seen so far on YouTube, their light show is better than ever and the larger stage will provide the full experience.

I think the only way Phish brings their own light rig is if everyone uses it and that does not seem likely. Then again lots of changes this year so it's anyone's guess.

[Flufhead]

Man, I hope they bring their lights, looks great this year from the couch.

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Would be very surprised if Phish didn't bring their own lights. Why wouldn't they?

[The Other One]

Jul 4, 2016 18:36:17 GMT -5 @stoutmonster said:

Would be very surprised if Phish didn't bring their own lights. Why wouldn't they?

First, no band has ever brought their own lights. Maybe Phish is the first. I would like to see it as well. Second I don't see there being one set for Phish and one set for everyone else. If everyone uses Phish's light rig then that would require the Phish lighting director to man the lights for all four days (I think). Plus Phish is famous for their light shows and I don't see them diluting that by letting all the other bands use the same set. Maybe part of the deal that Phish made was that they would bring their own lights, just does not seem likely to me.

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Jul 4, 2016 19:08:08 GMT -5 The Other One said:

Jul 4, 2016 18:36:17 GMT -5 @stoutmonster said:

Would be very surprised if Phish didn't bring their own lights. Why wouldn't they?

First, no band has ever brought their own lights. Maybe Phish is the first. I would like to see it as well. Second I don't see there being one set for Phish and one set for everyone else. If everyone uses Phish's light rig then that would require the Phish lighting director to man the lights for all four days (I think). Plus Phish is famous for their light shows and I don't see them diluting that by letting all the other bands use the same set. Maybe part of the deal that Phish made was that they would bring their own lights, just does not seem likely to me.

Umphrey's had their own light rig there last year. I realize this was made easier by the fact that they were playing the Blue Ridge stage, but the fact remains.

I'm no technical expert with these kind of things, but it seems like they'd be able to figure it out since Phish is the last act on the nights they play. I'm pretty sure they used their own lights when they've played festivals like Bonnaroo in the past.

[The Other One]

Just don't be disappointed if they don't have their own lights. That is all...

[Bird700level]

Interesting point. Option 1 - Use their own rig and let everyone else use it the entire weekend (Doubtful). Option 2 - Intertwine their in the already existing house lights that everyone else uses (Doubtful and not sure if even possible). Option 3 - Install their lights prior to their set and dismantle afterwards (Doubtful due to the time involved). Option 4 - Use the house lights (Most likely). Man that sucks if thats the case since I was really looking forward to seeing this.

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Jul 5, 2016 6:58:01 GMT -5 The Other One said:

Just don't be disappointed if they don't have their own lights. That is all...

I really don't care one way the other, the Lockn lights they had last year were more than fine and it's really more about the sound anyway.  I was just pointing out that there was a precedent (albeit not a completely equivalent one) for a band bringing their own lights as it happened last year with Umphrey's.

But yeah, the more I think about it I agree that it probably won't be the full-scale rig that Phish is touring with right now, probably not possible.  I bet they add something to the lights that everyone else is using though to make it seem more extravagant.  I don't think they would bring in their light rig for all of the bands to use the whole fest, but their lighting guy Chris Kuroda has done a lot of fests and stuff in the past, so it wouldn't be out of the question for him to be there the whole weekend.  Although I'd think if that were the case it would have been known by now, but maybe not considering the way everything has gone.

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Pretty rare to see people bring their own lights to a festival main stage in my experience. Just the shear semi-truck traffic that would create is impossible to allow throughout a festival. But, adding components specific to the band is not all that rare or impossible. Think FLips with their huge video board...or STS9 (anyone else ever see their touring wrestling ring show? Great fun). But those are bands that designed light rigs with specific components for festival circuit additions...they probably hauled around 3-4 configurations they can use for various sized stages/venues sending only a couple trucks in for the light festival additions.

Phish really only plays one size venue...large...where they are probably using 30+ semi loads (although stadium versus amphitheater tours can vary loads greatly). Maybe they pair it down to a couple unique components since Lockn' is not in the middle of a bunch of tour dates, but I too find it unlikely we will see Phish's full light array at Lockn. Today's programming (computers and shit) makes things easier to share, but a festival sets up in a universal fashion so each band can easily work with the equipment and technology. Phish's system probably has some unique quarks (thus making it cooler) that would not be inviting to everyone to just "plug in to". 

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As long as the sound and lights on the "turntable stage" this year are equivalent to what they had last year (which I thought were both the highest quality I have seen at any fest) then it will all be fine no matter what.

[mccjeff]

I think that there will be the permanent house light rig set up on the stage. It will probably be to Phish specifications. Phish may incorporate their CRAZY EXPENSIVE LED system for their sets behind them on the rotating stage. There is no way they swap out light rigs between sets. At B'roo they could do that because there was 1-2 hours between sets. But who knows!

[lobster]

I could be wrong but didnt sci have their own lights in 14?

[suebhunny]

Wow. Maybe I'm old. Or maybe I'm just square. But I fail to see how this issue with whose lights are being used even matters.

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Jul 5, 2016 11:17:16 GMT -5 suebhunny said:

Wow. Maybe I'm old. Or maybe I'm just square. But I fail to see how this issue with whose lights are being used even matters.

Doesn't really matter, it's just something to discuss while we wait forever for announcements.

[Bird700level]

Obviously the music comes first but a great light show makes it that much better. More specifically Phish and um lightshow.

[moon]

Jul 5, 2016 11:17:16 GMT -5 suebhunny said:

Wow. Maybe I'm old. Or maybe I'm just square. But I fail to see how this issue with whose lights are being used even matters.

It's because Phish has a new light set up this year, and many of their fans (myself included) are excited to see them used in person. Lockn' is the only time we will be seeing them this summer, and seeing them yourself isn't the same as when you couch tour.  

FYI, Kuroda (the guy who does Phish's lights) is considered by many to be the "fifth member" of the band. The music and the lights are very interactive for many of their songs.

So that's why it matters. 

[mccjeff]

SCI did have their own lights the first and second year. And they left that rig on stage the entire fest. But it was mostly just the circles up in the air. Phishes new LED panels are mind blowing and stupid expensive. Doubt they leave those up for 4 days.

And sue, a Phish light show adds a whole extra layer of wow.

[suebhunny]

I guess I'll have to trust y'all on this one. Though I seriously doubt it will affect me profoundly.  If I get there.

[smosey wales]

This discussion brings this to mind: If Phish sets up on stage 1, they will remain set up on stage 1 for the second show that night. After the first show on 1, the stage will spin and Stage 2 will be out front with another band playing on it. Then back to 1 for Act II.

So that answers some of the speculation about goings-on between the Phish acts. The alternative, a dark stage intermission, seems unlikely.

Now we just need to know who will be behind door #2 ("My hold world lies waiting....")

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Jul 5, 2016 12:14:02 GMT -5 smosey wales said:

This discussion brings this to mind: If Phish sets up on stage 1, they will remain set up on stage 1 for the second show that night. After the first show on 1, the stage will spin and Stage 2 will be out front with another band playing on it. Then back to 1 for Act II.

So that answers some of the speculation about goings-on between the Phish acts. The alternative, a dark stage intermission, seems unlikely.

Now we just need to know who will be behind door #2 ("My hold world lies waiting....")

No, that doesn't answer it at all LOL.  All you've said is what we've been saying...either Phish will have someone playing music in between their sets or they won't.  Of course they're going to play on the same stage for both sets either way, they're not going to play set 1 on one stage and then move all of their gear and set it up on the other side of the stage for the 2nd set.

[Bird700level]

Jul 5, 2016 12:08:01 GMT -5 suebhunny said:

I guess I'll have to trust y'all on this one. Though I seriously doubt it will affect me profoundly.  If I get there.

This gives a really good idea of how Phish's lighting designer and the band are in tune with each other. This is incredible. The shell helped a little.

[suebhunny]

Thanks for trying. There are some things that some people will never grasp. That's me and the importance of a light show.

Y'all can tell me that I'm gonna like Phish and MMJ and fancy light shows all you want. It's like salmon for me. I don't like salmon. People tell me I've just never have good salmon. But I HAVE had good salmon. And it still tastes like salmon. And I don't like salmon. I also don't care for Phish, MMJ or overdone light shows.

Different stroke for different folks, you know.

[The Other One]

A good light show can greatly enhance altered states of consciousness, or so I have been told...