Wooks documentary

[kuriti]

New documentary about wooks from the creator of Florida Man doc.

[uʞɔo˥ewbn]

Dec 28, 2022 17:32:23 GMT -5 kuriti said:

New documentary about wooks from the creator of Florida Man doc.

An acquaintance of mine is at 7:55. He sells shirts. We recently had a lengthy discussion about the future of the Dead franchise. He strongly believes that the Core Four will tour again. Total speculation on his part but he vended every DeadCo show. I think he's nuts but what do I know.

[hondo]

I could see one more tour from the core 4, perhaps a limited run with shows on both coasts and Chi-town in 2025 for GD60! I'm sure this is consuming all of Pete's time and is the reason the 2023 Lockn lineup hasn't been announced (although it should be released **soon**)

But all of the above is being hopeful.

[The Other One]

I had a vision at the last Bristow DeadCO show that revealed the next Dead spinoff to me. Billy's done, Johnny Slayer is moving on and Phil sticks with his current revolving lineup of friends so from L to R looking at the stage, Jeff Chimenti, Steve Kimock, Jay Lane, Bob Weir, Mickey Hart and Oteil Burbridge.

[hondo]

Dec 29, 2022 8:36:33 GMT -5 The Other One said:

I had a vision at the last Bristow DeadCO show that revealed the next Dead spinoff to me. Billy's done, Johnny Slayer is moving on and Phil sticks with his current revolving lineup of friends so from L to R looking at the stage, Jeff Chimenti, Steve Kimock, Jay Lane, Bob Weir, Mickey Hart and Oteil Burbridge.

I'd buy tickets to see that group. Dead & Co. II (TOO?).

[The Other One]

Dec 29, 2022 9:08:07 GMT -5 hondo said:

Dec 29, 2022 8:36:33 GMT -5 The Other One said:

I had a vision at the last Bristow DeadCO show that revealed the next Dead spinoff to me. Billy's done, Johnny Slayer is moving on and Phil sticks with his current revolving lineup of friends so from L to R looking at the stage, Jeff Chimenti, Steve Kimock, Jay Lane, Bob Weir, Mickey Hart and Oteil Burbridge.

I'd buy tickets to see that group. Dead & Co. II (TOO?).

Ratdog 5.0

[iggy]

Dec 29, 2022 8:36:33 GMT -5 The Other One said:

I had a vision at the last Bristow DeadCO show that revealed the next Dead spinoff to me. Billy's done, Johnny Slayer is moving on and Phil sticks with his current revolving lineup of friends so from L to R looking at the stage, Jeff Chimenti, Steve Kimock, Jay Lane, Bob Weir, Mickey Hart and Oteil Burbridge.

I was thinking about this recently. Full disclosure, it was after eating a chocolate bar I bought off a guy in the lot of a Widespread Panic show. But here's where my mind went:

TLDR: Phil is back, guitar TBD

Fully agree that Bill is done, if he even makes it through the 2023 tour. Mayer's gone. Definitely thinking Chimenti, Lane, Bob & Mickey keep it going. But I've noticed that Phil is doing a little more touring these days, beyond just one or two venues that he was comfortable at. Maybe he is getting himself back into road shape. The fans want Dead members, and if you lose one you kind of need to replace them with another if possible. And this way they don't betray the "last appearance of the Core 4" aesthetic from Fare Thee Well.

And let's be real, Phil is a human. He's gotta be taking note of the Dead & Co earnings and thinking it might be nice to set his great-grandchildren up for life. Financially, for both the band members and the management, it makes sense to bring Phil on board.

Kimock would be perfect on guitar, but there may still be bad blood between him and Phil. So who else?

Warren? Scofield? Both great, but neither is going to move the needle much on ticket sales.

The guitarist from Goose? He was in a recent Phil & Friends line-up. Goose will be at Playing In The Sand, so maybe he and Weir will go off and have a private jam. He could also bring in the younger crowd that loves Goose. 

Billy Strings? Why not? He's got his own thing going, but he also has a sickening amount of talent. He could put the bluegrass thing on the shelf for just a short while and get down with some electric psychedelia. People would not be complaining about the tempo if Billy were on guitar--just hope the others could keep up with him.

Or maybe, crazy as it sounds, Trey? Just like Bob, Trey has proven that he needs to tour endlessly to feel normal. I believe he could balance Phish, all his side projects, and the next Dead incarnation. And Trey will sell tickets. I would be surprised if they don't at least float an offer his way...just a matter of whether he is up for it.

Or maybe they just bring someone completely out of left field like they did with Mayer. Please just not Kadlecik. No disrespect to the Furthur fans, but I agree 100% with Bill calling him "Fake Jerry." Mayer brought his own style, and any guitarist playing at this level should do the same.

[smosey wales]

As for Kadlecik, whom I'd endorse, vice Mayer "who brought his own style", in that the puppet master has to choose: is this next iteration with the remaining lucid members intended to replicate the Grateful Dead at the time the (Jerry) music stopped, or is it to be an extension of where the GD perhaps was heading, or would have gone?

This is the age-old distinction between DSO and JRAD, and why the two bands can never the compared to each other, because they are contrasting ventures with no intention to be the same. Ask MccJeff if you don't believe; he will opine indeed. I saw Furthur and would put that at a replication; I only saw DeadCo four times so I'm no expert but I'd agree with your "own style" assessment and say they are an extension.

Trey would be a great addition to an extension band, but he is too busy with other ventures, including Phish, to commit to a "core Four" type project with a tour schedule other than a single show venture. He would not try to play like Jerry, but he would play well, to the wrath, or delight, of the listener, depending.

[kuriti]

Um guys, I really feel like you are disrespecting the wooks here with all this cogent debate. Can we get on to nitrous jokes please? Shitting in a Prius?

[smosey wales]

Watching these wooks sucks the intelligence out of your brain worse than watching network TV.

[The Other One]

Dec 29, 2022 17:28:11 GMT -5 kuriti said:

Um guys, I really feel like you are disrespecting the wooks here with all this cogent debate. Can we get on to nitrous jokes please? Shitting in a Prius?

[kuriti]

Ok, just actually watched it. Felt like wook lite. I expected more crazy, but fun nonetheless. 

[smosey wales]

I'm glad there are a few, but only a few, like that at Lockn'. Except the gassers; no use for them.

I know, "judge not lest ye be judged" but damn!

[Andie Bee]

I don't know, I have to wonder... some of the people weren't wooks, just regular lot folks...

[slypknot]

Jan 1, 2023 16:52:10 GMT -5 Andie Bee said:

I don't know, I have to wonder... some of the people weren't wooks, just regular lot folks...

That was my thought as well...

[smosey wales]

Jan 1, 2023 18:53:48 GMT -5 slypknot said:

Jan 1, 2023 16:52:10 GMT -5 Andie Bee said:

I don't know, I have to wonder... some of the people weren't wooks, just regular lot folks...

That was my thought as well...

yes there are a lot of wookier wooks than many of those wooks.

Some were quite entrepreneurial. But not the guy who said the more someone wanted something (ie demand), the lower he'd sell it to them, to make the transaction a positive one. How does that effect your estimated profit?

I'm sure there were some trustafarians in the bunch as well.

[The Other One]

Jan 3, 2023 12:46:58 GMT -5 smosey wales said:

Jan 1, 2023 18:53:48 GMT -5 slypknot said:

That was my thought as well...

yes there are a lot of wookier wooks than many of those wooks.

Some were quite entrepreneurial. But not the guy who said the more someone wanted something (ie demand), the lower he'd sell it to them, to make the transaction a positive one. How does that effect your estimated profit?

I'm sure there were some trustafarians in the bunch as well.

i see what you did there...