Is a hot dog, on a bun, a sandwich

[The Other One]

I had two random folks stop me at the TTB show Saturday night and ask me "Sir, is a hot dog on a bun a sandwich?" My response was "Absolutely Not!" to which they got a good chuckle. I then went on to justify my response but I'll save that until I've heard some of your answers. 

After you answer the poll tell us why or why not a hot dog is NOT a sandwich.

[smosey wales]

No fair going to google, wiki, etc.

I say no because the meat (contents) are not between two pieces of bread, but in one piece of bread.

That of course calls into question the submarine, properly made with one attached side.

I recall when working on a project with a fast food business, and the suits called the burgers "sandwiches" and it didn't ring right with me; I guess a bun isn't bread in my upbringing.

[smosey wales]

[estprofinhumboldt]

Feb 9, 2022 14:03:43 GMT -5 smosey wales said:

In a literal sense yes. By culinary definition, no 😁
edit: didn’t have that option on the poll

[war fart]

I'll show you my rhetoric if you show me yours

[The Other One]

Feb 9, 2022 14:03:43 GMT -5 smosey wales said:

The poll specifically said "on a hot dog bun", which that picture is NOT!

[The Other One]

Feb 9, 2022 13:52:51 GMT -5 smosey wales said:

No fair going to google, wiki, etc.

I say no because the meat (contents) are not between two pieces of bread, but in one piece of bread.

That of course calls into question the submarine, properly made with one attached side.

I recall when working on a project with a fast food business, and the suits called the burgers "sandwiches" and it didn't ring right with me; I guess a bun isn't bread in my upbringing.

An open face sandwich is on one piece of bread...

[smosey wales]

Feb 9, 2022 15:32:10 GMT -5 The Other One said:

Feb 9, 2022 14:03:43 GMT -5 smosey wales said:

The poll specifically said "on a hot dog bun", which that picture is NOT!

I know that but (a) this would be an open-faced hot dog sandwich by my theory and (b) that bread is a hot dog bun, a hamburger bun, garlic bread AND sandwich bread to some folks....

But in your question, is the hot dog bun split on the side or on the top?

[grumbly-one]

Sheesh welcome to the internet. What is the next question you are going to ask...

Would you rather fight 1 horse sized duck, or a 100 duck sized horses?

[war fart]

I'd rather fight a polar bear than a swarm of anything.

[The Other One]

Feb 9, 2022 16:08:57 GMT -5 grumbly-one said:

Sheesh welcome to the internet. What is the next question you are going to ask...

Would you rather fight 1 horse sized duck, or a 100 duck sized horses?

Yes, this is my first day on the internets, thanks for the warm welcomes. May I give Obat your IP addresses, no?

[Sneake]

I've had this discussion more times than I care to recall. It's actually the title of one of my favorite podcasts: A Hotdog is a Sandwich

www.stitcher.com/show/a-hot-dog-is-a-sandwich

[Andie Bee]

It's a hot dog you peasants! I have spoken! (Did I say that out loud?)

[hondo]

Feb 9, 2022 23:55:02 GMT -5 Andie Bee said:

It's a hot dog you peasants! I have spoken! (Did I say that out loud?)

All hail the Queen. She is wise and correct!

[hondo]

Is a hot dog a sandwich? Fuck to the no.

It's kind of like pornography - you know it when you see it.

[suebhunny]

Not only is a hot dog on a bun a sandwich, it is one of my FAVORITE sandwiches. It is contents surrounded mostly, but not completely, by something else, which is therefore a sandwich. If a hoagie or a sub is a sandwich, so is a hot dog on a bun. Period.

[smosey wales]

Feb 10, 2022 9:44:50 GMT -5 suebhunny said:

Not only is a hot dog on a bun a sandwich, it is one of my FAVORITE sandwiches. It is contents surrounded mostly, but not completely, by something else, which is therefore a sandwich. If a hoagie or a sub is a sandwich, so is a hot dog on a bun. Period.

so by your standards a pig in a blanket and a corn dog are both sandwiches?

A taco?

A gyro?

[suebhunny]

Feb 10, 2022 10:19:19 GMT -5 smosey wales said:

Feb 10, 2022 9:44:50 GMT -5 suebhunny said:

Not only is a hot dog on a bun a sandwich, it is one of my FAVORITE sandwiches. It is contents surrounded mostly, but not completely, by something else, which is therefore a sandwich. If a hoagie or a sub is a sandwich, so is a hot dog on a bun. Period.

so by your standards a pig in a blanket and a corn dog are both sandwiches?

A taco?

A gyro?

Taco and gyro are both sandwiches.  Pig in a blanket and corn dog are not because they are COMPLETELY surrounded.  It's the partial openness that defines the sandwich for me.

[uʞɔo˥ewbn]

Feb 10, 2022 10:19:19 GMT -5 smosey wales said:

Feb 10, 2022 9:44:50 GMT -5 suebhunny said:

Not only is a hot dog on a bun a sandwich, it is one of my FAVORITE sandwiches. It is contents surrounded mostly, but not completely, by something else, which is therefore a sandwich. If a hoagie or a sub is a sandwich, so is a hot dog on a bun. Period.

so by your standards a pig in a blanket and a corn dog are both sandwiches?

A taco?

A gyro?

minnesotalawreview.org/2019/02/22/constructing-the-sandwich/

Well California and New York say a hotdog is a sandwich so it must be true. Get with the program people. 

[smosey wales]

Feb 10, 2022 10:36:37 GMT -5 suebhunny said:

Feb 10, 2022 10:19:19 GMT -5 smosey wales said:

so by your standards a pig in a blanket and a corn dog are both sandwiches?

A taco?

A gyro?

Taco and gyro are both sandwiches.  Pig in a blanket and corn dog are not because they are COMPLETELY surrounded.  It's the partial openness that defines the sandwich for me.

So a wrap is a sandwich and a burrito is not, due to the open ends.

Enchilada? No I think we'd agree that it's a hand-held food. 

[kuriti]

Feb 10, 2022 10:38:24 GMT -5 uʞɔo˥ewbn said:

Feb 10, 2022 10:19:19 GMT -5 smosey wales said:

so by your standards a pig in a blanket and a corn dog are both sandwiches?

A taco?

A gyro?

minnesotalawreview.org/2019/02/22/constructing-the-sandwich/

Well California and New York say a hotdog is a sandwich so it must be true. Get with the program people. 

"Well California and New York say a hotdog is a sandwich" Legally we must add: 

[smosey wales]

Feb 10, 2022 10:38:24 GMT -5 uʞɔo˥ewbn said:

Feb 10, 2022 10:19:19 GMT -5 smosey wales said:

so by your standards a pig in a blanket and a corn dog are both sandwiches?

A taco?

A gyro?

minnesotalawreview.org/2019/02/22/constructing-the-sandwich/

Well California and New York say a hotdog is a sandwich so it must be true. Get with the program people. 

You've been googlin'

[slypknot]

Feb 10, 2022 11:41:56 GMT -5 smosey wales said:

Feb 10, 2022 10:38:24 GMT -5 uʞɔo˥ewbn said:

minnesotalawreview.org/2019/02/22/constructing-the-sandwich/

Well California and New York say a hotdog is a sandwich so it must be true. Get with the program people. 

You've been googlin'

Well, if you want to know if something meets the definition of something - you must first establish and agree on the definition...

[smosey wales]

Feb 10, 2022 12:23:56 GMT -5 slypknot said:

Feb 10, 2022 11:41:56 GMT -5 smosey wales said:

You've been googlin'

Well, if you want to know if something meets the definition of something - you must first establish and agree on the definition...

I learned long ago there is no such thing as a "fact", whether in news or history.  I am now beginning to believe there is no such thing as a "definition."  Too many times, a statement relies on the speaker's special definition, falling directly into the "Texas Sharpshooter" fallacy.

[war fart]

Everything smosey named is a sandwich. Any hand-held protein, veg or mix thereof, nestled in a starch, is a sandwich.