"Greatest Hits" v "Deep Tracks"

[Flufhead]

I know this could be a loaded question and is only asked out of curiosity. Personally, as long as the music is good and moves me, I don't care, but of course I'd be lying if I said I didn't want to hear some specific things. I also understand that some of these acts don't have "Greatest Hits" per say (though certainly more popular tracks than others).

So, with that preamble out of the way, I would ask what you all think as far as how a lot of these performances are going to balance what "the people want to hear" versus "what the band wants to play" (not that the two are mutually exclusive).

I'm of the mind that these Tribute Acts will hit all the solid stuff with a few deeper cuts?

For example, if The Doobie Incident doesn't play 'China Grove', I'll be disappointed. If they play "Steamer Lane", I'll probably lose my shit.
If MD&E doesn't play "The Weight", I WILL lose my shit but if they pull out something totally unexpected, I may forget that said shit was being lost.
If the JA set doesn't include "Don't You Want Somebody to Love" = disappointed, but does include some acid rock jammy type gooeyness like "Good Shepherd" = not so disapointed. 

For the non-tribute sets, I have no clue:

Never heard Steve Earl live and really looking forward to it and dying to hear "Copperhead Road", but since I never heard him live, expectations are high for a good set with no expectations for actual set itself. Which makes perfect sense if you were me. 

Galactic made my face slide off seeing a live "Hey na na" but still bringing a face sling to the late night regardless.

Robert Plant, I certainly want to hear Zep but done in his current way w/ this group. With two sets, I will be disappointed if Zep isn't given some time.

With a lot of the other acts, there are tons of songs I want to hear, so between that mix, it'll be solid and the additional "never heard this before but Jeebus, why the hell haven't I heard this before...hey dude what's the name of this song so I can go home and listen to variations of it..." 

And anything Dead related is moot. Like Phish, no matter what is played, its totally what I wanted to hear, I forgot I wanted to really hear that, and I though I wished they had played that but in retrospect since I'm still picking of pieces of my brain, I can't remember what the big deal was about wanting to hear whatever it was I forgot I wanted to hear. 

[gangleader]

Sept 3, 2015 21:57:17 GMT -5 Flufhead said:

I like the topic and of course their are a few things I would love to hear, but the more and more I go to shows and have the chance to go the shows I realize that it is all about surrendering to the flow. I am going to go into every set with fresh ears and let the whole weekend move me. 
I will try not to be hung up on hearing any particular song. Although like stated above, that will be hard. 

[smosey wales]

I expect MD&E to stick with the playlist, hopefully the 2006 deluxe so we get the Weight, and "Darling be home soon" is a TTB song. Must have Space Captain, Letter, Bathroom Window, and prob. HOnky Tonk Women.

I expect JA to play the worst of the Jefferson Airplane (get it?) but move the songs into jams or medleys. Will jam if they reach into Blows Against.

Steve Earle is a musician, not a performer. His more (most?) recent album, Terraplane, was blues. Before that, bluegrass. I could see a theme although since he's playing with the Dukes-his traditional band--he might just do a lot of "greatest hits." I'd like some Duke deep cuts.

Plant will have his new style of LZ songs liberally sprinkled into the stew.

Doobies, I was expecting a cover of themselves but they are with Cheese and a friend saw them recently and they were playing real music, not pop tunes. To me, "China Grove" is just smoke on the water/Bachman Turner Overdrive three chord rock where we learned electric guitar at 14. Much better old stuff out there that's familiar.

Feat--lots of oldies, plus some post-Lowell (let it roll) but with extended jams/medleys like Feat does.

Santana--expect very little of the early Latin as stand-alone songs, although his cover of Black Magic Woman leads to jams. I expect more of his later stuff. "Europa" would be an eargasm.

Weir and Lesh will take off from GD tunes. Billy's kids, a blend like last year--he sort of spotlighted each "friend" rather than stage a complete band (and ran out of time for someone, was it Col Bruce?). Hart? DK,DC.

[StillLifeStillDead]

There are some standards I'd like to hear from the tributes and the other headliners. But, what I like best are the surprises. The stuff I just didn't see coming. Things like the Panic/Susan Tedeschi cover of Bill Withers, Use Me. Or, Umphrey's MaGee, a band I had never seen, doing an 11 minute cover of Shine On You Crazy Diamond. TTB covering a MD&E tune and some Sly Stone.

After the shows in '13 and '14 I watched a bunch of videos on-line and later realized that a lot of this material was being covered at other venues while these groups toured. Doesn't dilute the experience for me.

Looking forward to more surprises.

[Deleted]

Sept 3, 2015 21:57:17 GMT -5 Flufhead said:

I know this could be a loaded question and is only asked out of curiosity. Personally, as long as the music is good and moves me, I don't care, but of course I'd be lying if I said I didn't want to hear some specific things. I also understand that some of these acts don't have "Greatest Hits" per say (though certainly more popular tracks than others).

So, with that preamble out of the way, I would ask what you all think as far as how a lot of these performances are going to balance what "the people want to hear" versus "what the band wants to play" (not that the two are mutually exclusive).

I'm of the mind that these Tribute Acts will hit all the solid stuff with a few deeper cuts?

For example, if The Doobie Incident doesn't play 'China Grove', I'll be disappointed. If they play "Steamer Lane", I'll probably lose my shit.
If MD&E doesn't play "The Weight", I WILL lose my shit but if they pull out something totally unexpected, I may forget that said shit was being lost.
If the JA set doesn't include "Don't You Want Somebody to Love" = disappointed, but does include some acid rock jammy type gooeyness like "Good Shepherd" = not so disapointed. 

For the non-tribute sets, I have no clue:

Never heard Steve Earl live and really looking forward to it and dying to hear "Copperhead Road", but since I never heard him live, expectations are high for a good set with no expectations for actual set itself. Which makes perfect sense if you were me. 

Galactic made my face slide off seeing a live "Hey na na" but still bringing a face sling to the late night regardless.

Robert Plant, I certainly want to hear Zep but done in his current way w/ this group. With two sets, I will be disappointed if Zep isn't given some time.

With a lot of the other acts, there are tons of songs I want to hear, so between that mix, it'll be solid and the additional "never heard this before but Jeebus, why the hell haven't I heard this before...hey dude what's the name of this song so I can go home and listen to variations of it..." 

And anything Dead related is moot. Like Phish, no matter what is played, its totally what I wanted to hear, I forgot I wanted to really hear that, and I though I wished they had played that but in retrospect since I'm still picking of pieces of my brain, I can't remember what the big deal was about wanting to hear whatever it was I forgot I wanted to hear. 

Ill be happy with whatever.

[Deleted]

One thing I have learned after countless festivals and shows from these bands, is NEVER go in hoping to hear anything. Because Murphy's Law will always prevail and they won't play it.

For example, I have been going to see Umphrey's since 2006. Every show has been great, but I have yet to hear them play Hurt Bird Bath live. And it's the song that got me into them so I'd really like to hear it before I die. But I have given up hoping for it. Of course when they recently played Asheville, I thought about going but ultimately decided to pass since it's quite a drive and I was seeing them the following week in Raleigh. Oh, but did they play Hurt Bird Bath in Asheville??? You bet your bippy they did! Why? Because I wasn't there! So whatever, Umphrey's. Play whatever the hell you want at Lockn' this year. How about Resolution? Yes, good song, but I've heard you do it live 9 FREAKIN' TIMES!!!!!! How about just one Hurt Bird Bath???!!!

And Phil: Would love to hear an oddity like Pride Of Cucamonga. But that's alright, why don't you go ahead and use a shortened festival set to play 2 Winwood songs we are guaranteed to hear one day later as well as repeating a song from Kreutzmann's set right before yours. Yeah, yeah, good idea!

Okay I am done venting. Hopefully this answers your question and adds to the discussion in some way.

DISCLAIMER: I love Umphrey's and Phil and am eagerly looking forward to their sets regardless of whatever they play.

[war fart]

I second those complaints, although I'm uncertain as to who Umphreys Mcgee is...

[bmore]

Sept 4, 2015 18:19:16 GMT -5 war fart said:

I second those complaints, although I'm uncertain as to who Umphreys Mcgee is...

It's long as JA plays We Built This City (on rock and roll), the weekend will be complete. They must all wear poofy shirts, have big hair, and play that cool keyboard guitar hybrid that was huge in the 80's. Was hoping for a Starship reunion but will put up w JA. ?

[smosey wales]

Sept 5, 2015 5:04:22 GMT -5 bmore said:

Sept 4, 2015 18:19:16 GMT -5 war fart said:

I second those complaints, although I'm uncertain as to who Umphreys Mcgee is...

It's long as JA plays We Built This City (on rock and roll), the weekend will be complete. They must all wear poofy shirts, have big hair, and play that cool keyboard guitar hybrid that was huge in the 80's. Was hoping for a Starship reunion but will put up w JA. ?

no, no, and no. The point is to avoid starship. this is airplane. this is music. this is lockn, not some state fair or CitySummerFestival. Bad enough having the doobies.

Note: Blows Against the Empire was not the band Starship, just trying out the name. Wasn't really the band Airplane but still outstanding.

[bmore]

Sept 5, 2015 6:17:33 GMT -5 smosey wales said:

Sept 5, 2015 5:04:22 GMT -5 bmore said:

It's long as JA plays We Built This City (on rock and roll), the weekend will be complete. They must all wear poofy shirts, have big hair, and play that cool keyboard guitar hybrid that was huge in the 80's. Was hoping for a Starship reunion but will put up w JA. ?

no, no, and no. The point is to avoid starship. this is airplane. this is music. this is lockn, not some state fair or CitySummerFestival. Bad enough having the doobies.

Note: Blows Against the Empire was not the band Starship, just trying out the name. Wasn't really the band Airplane but still outstanding.

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come on! Who can forget Sara? Sara, storms are brewing in your eyes. You need to open up to bad 80's synth pop by former psychedelic pioneers. (By the way, my entire post said w sarcasm. Well, maybe not the part about the guitar-keyboard hybrids. Still love those)

[smosey wales]

Ah, most refreshing that you revealed your sarcasm (I never use fonts, emoticons, etc. either).

But I will say, "Miracles" greatly enhanced my "get lucky" factor back in its day! I think it may have surpassed the Best of Bread 8-track for that.

[Deleted]

Sept 5, 2015 11:08:21 GMT -5 smosey wales said:

Ah, most refreshing that you revealed your sarcasm (I never use fonts, emoticons, etc. either).

But I will say, "Miracles" greatly enhanced my "get lucky" factor back in its day! I think it may have surpassed the Best of Bread 8-track for that.

i think it would be really funny if they did a starship 'nothings gonna stop us now' into 'sara', professional yet with a grain of salt, miracles is quite a snooze fest, but they could do it 70's spacey style into a dream weaver cover.  i believe they they wont, however, because its the airplane version and not sure if anyone but me would enjoy a starship mini tribute.

[war fart]

Jane is Jefferson Starship. It rocks. That is all.

[Deleted]

Sept 5, 2015 12:23:14 GMT -5 war fart said:

Jane is Jefferson Starship. It rocks. That is all.

I hear a 'rock u like a hurricane' mash up.

[war fart]

One could also throw in Aldo Nova's Fantasy, but now we're getting seriously cheesy.

[buddy74]

Sept 5, 2015 11:08:21 GMT -5 smosey wales said:

Ah, most refreshing that you revealed your sarcasm (I never use fonts, emoticons, etc. either).

But I will say, "Miracles" greatly enhanced my "get lucky" factor back in its day! I think it may have surpassed the Best of Bread 8-track for that.

tmi, smosey!

[war fart]

Bread. Ugh.

[Deleted]

Sept 5, 2015 12:36:20 GMT -5 war fart said:

One could also throw in Aldo Nova's Fantasy, but now we're getting seriously cheesy.

It works but veers into deeper cheese so might wanna get back on the plane.  

[hrpufnstuf]

Sept 5, 2015 12:50:01 GMT -5 war fart said:

Bread. Ugh.

We all know you were an Air Supply guy hence the Bread hatred.

[war fart]

I'm all out of love for the guitar man.

[press]

This thread may have run out of steam but before it dies I will say I hope the Airplane tribute includes Volunteers and anything else from that album. And I was hoping Fogerty would play Fortunate Son the first year and he did, and Winwood played a lot of familiar tunes last year, so who knows?

[oldcheese]

 
I got double happy last year when I heard two renditions of Low Spark!!!

[smosey wales]

JA' song list could be the worst of the Jefferson airplane.